I did always think it may suffer from just being a revised 2017 fan club. Capitalism can’t be fought on vibes alone. I’m sure as more unfolds they will have some pluralism and vision
Perhaps they think that by excluding 'radical' slogans, they can avoid the 'Bucket of Shit' from Murdock and co. This is a mistake. They will get the bucket anyway, especially if they start cutting into 'Reform's base.
On the other hand, if you do have a radical agenda, like, fx - Opposing a genocide; raising the living standards of the citizens; investing in the country's future; removing the authoritarian nightmare arising around us, preparing for the end of cheap oil - deeply radical stuff like that :rolls eyes:, then you might want to bring it in slyly.
Back to that 5D chess BS again.
Since my late teens, even as a proud liberal theorist, I've always been surprised at the timidity and elitism of the Left.
Worker-ownership is not 'radical', it was implicit even in Adam Smith's works.
Too much of the Left is hopelessly mired in elitism.
I hope this new Party does not follow down that route, I really do.
What a crying shame we don't have a media worthy of its rights.
Gnuneo - are you saying THE LEFT LANE is NOT worthy? SHAME ( LOL!) Take your point entirely ++++ The 5 articl;es in the reading of a quite high quality I think.
I did always think it may suffer from just being a revised 2017 fan club. Capitalism can’t be fought on vibes alone. I’m sure as more unfolds they will have some pluralism and vision
Hey Cheaper: This is "fan club-ism" in action. " I left as Mohamad was offering the audience the chance to go home with a jar of Corbyn’s jam (two jars are ultimately auctioned for an astonishing £1,500)." https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/labour/2025/07/the-hubris-of-britains-new-left
Wow! And what better merchandise to get than jam? 🤣
"Fan club" a good description .
Perhaps they think that by excluding 'radical' slogans, they can avoid the 'Bucket of Shit' from Murdock and co. This is a mistake. They will get the bucket anyway, especially if they start cutting into 'Reform's base.
On the other hand, if you do have a radical agenda, like, fx - Opposing a genocide; raising the living standards of the citizens; investing in the country's future; removing the authoritarian nightmare arising around us, preparing for the end of cheap oil - deeply radical stuff like that :rolls eyes:, then you might want to bring it in slyly.
Back to that 5D chess BS again.
Since my late teens, even as a proud liberal theorist, I've always been surprised at the timidity and elitism of the Left.
Worker-ownership is not 'radical', it was implicit even in Adam Smith's works.
Too much of the Left is hopelessly mired in elitism.
I hope this new Party does not follow down that route, I really do.
What a crying shame we don't have a media worthy of its rights.
Gnuneo - are you saying THE LEFT LANE is NOT worthy? SHAME ( LOL!) Take your point entirely ++++ The 5 articl;es in the reading of a quite high quality I think.